A Viral Video and Our Take on It

A viral video and our take on it

The video in question is by a finfluencer. He put out this video a few days back suggesting that US markets are showing signs similar to the Great Depression of late 1920's and Dot Com Bubble of 2000 and can correct by over 30-40%, ripple effect of which will be felt in Indian markets.

We believe finfluencers, while not licensed by SEBI to provide financial advice, play an important role in creating awareness and importantly, in stirring up the pot. The video has its expected fair share of “over-simplifying and generalizing a deeply complex subject”. However, its underlying message is quite relevant, especially given the recency bias amongst investors.

Quoting experts, he gives 3 reasons:

• Valuations of US markets are similar to 2000 (the Dot Com bubble - markets corrected by close to 50%) and 1929 (Great Depression - markets corrected by 85%), i.e. they are as expensive as they were then. He uses a specific metric - Shiller P/E ratio.
• Banks pay higher interest rate for longer term FDs - this is the norm. However, until recently, it was the reverse in US where short term FDs were paying a higher interest than long term FDs - referred to as yield curve inversion.
• How just 7 companies (the Magnificent 7 - Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, Tesla) are dominating the US stock markets.

Do we agree that US markets can correct by 30-40%?

Let us break it down. First & foremost - the aforesaid are not the cause. They are the manifestations or signs (or the effect) of something deeper (the real cause). Going into the real cause will however need us to go down the rabbit hole of how the world has conducted trade over the centuries. From the barter system to the modern-day fiat-currency system and how the modern-day system, which allowed countries to print their currencies with "gay abandon", without the backing of any asset (pre-1970, the asset used to be Gold), is under serious threat. We will need to get into:

• How it used to operate in the period post the WW2 and late 1960's, what was known as the Bretton Woods system.
• How it abruptly changed in early 1970's due to a decision taken by the then president of USA, how that new system both caused and was later used to bail the world out of a financial crisis in 2008.
• How an alternate system (Bitcoin) was created in response, how post-Covid governments had no option but to bail out citizens out of job losses and economic shut-down, and how sanctions on Russia after Ukraine and Trump 2 era policies have dealt the proverbial final nail in the coffin.

That system was based on our faith on the currency of the World's largest economy - the US Dollar and on 3 core principles:

• Holding U.S. treasury is as good as holding Gold. For the first time since 1996, foreign central banks are holding greater share of Gold in their reserves than U.S. treasuries.
• USA's hegemony refers to the political, economic, military, and cultural dominance of the United States over other nations. The world is now transitioning from what was known as unipolar world to a multi-polar world. Which while good, is a decisive change and will naturally have implications.
• USA will run trade deficits. Hence, it will owe money to foreign central banks, which the latter will keep in US dollar. USA under Trump 2 has made its intention clear of reversing this.

It would be correct to conclude that the modern-day fiat currency system, was built around an unwritten understanding, which in turn was founded around a delicate balance of geo-politics. It remarkably survived the Cold War & the two financial hiccups in between - 2000 dot com bubble & 2008 financial crisis. However, with the rise of China, aftermath of Russia-Ukraine War, rise of anti-immigrant sentiment and protectionist regimes in many countries, that balance is under threat. If, and when, it ruptures, it can upend the US economy, the US dollar, the US markets, and the world.

Net-net, what are we saying?

We do not know. It is hard to even say whether it is a merely a question of when, and not if. While the signs are ominous, it is important to remind oneself that a lot rides on the current system. Also, would not those who are in charge, know all this? They definitely do and are working as per a plan. The answer to this question really holds the key - will their plan work or will it make things even worse for US?

The few experts we follow, and who share our concerns on the state of affairs - some do suggest that it is not a question of if, it is just a question of when. However, they too warn that it is impossible to predict when a correction takes place. A very well-known expert recently said it could take 3, 5 years, even longer.

John Maynard Keynes - one of the most famous economists of modern times, famously said that "the market can stay irrational longer than you can remain solvent". This means that market irrationality can last longer than an individual investor can withstand the financial losses that result from betting against it. For example - Alan Greenspan, who was the Chairman of Federal Reserve (USA's central bank) had issued a warning in December 1996. He had warned of irrational exuberance in the stock markets and that investor optimism was causing a bubble in the share prices. What happened next is a very interesting case study of the limits to the intellectual capabilities of even specialists & experts. Market did correct - by more than 50%. However in 2000-01. In the intervening period, Year 1997 - 31%, Year 1998 - 27%, Year 1999 - 19.5%. Markets doubled!

Our take is that if the modern-day fiat currency system upends, while it will lead to ripple effects, Indian stock markets are more likely to undergo a time-correction rather than a deep value correction. Our massive population, a burgeoning middle class, and our relatively stable macro indicators could cushion any ripple effect. Our sheer size, while making governance a complex task which in turn prevents us from being a break-out economy, also acts as a safety valve. In fact, in the near term, any reversal of tariffs by USA could lead to an up-cycle.

However, even time-corrections can be deeply frustrating, as it can deplete medium-to-long-term returns, which can lead to errors of judgment at an investor's end. Hence, it is useful to:

1. Keep one's return expectations from equity assets near to the long-term averages, perhaps a notch lower. In our proprietary Risk Return Readiness framework, we have reduced our equity return number from 11% post-tax to 10% post-tax OR from 12.5% pre-tax to 11% pre-tax. This assumes a predominantly large cap portfolio. A portfolio with a mix of mid & small cap should theoretically give higher returns.
2. Remember that when you invest in equity, you are essentially taking ownership in a business, you are betting on an entrepreneur. While markets will do their usual song & dance, the business, the entrepreneur will continue to strive to grow the business. A systemic breakdown could even impact businesses but that is when enterprise comes into play. As long as you have bought into enterprising managements and / or selected a few fund managers who have a long track record and therefore have witnessed several market cycles, patience will pay off.
3. Assess if you are over-extended into equity assets. It will be useful to go back to the drawing board and assess both your Risk Tolerance and your cash-flow situation. Assessing your cash-flow situation is equally critical. We prefer that after factoring in cash inflows from other sources, you should be well-covered for net cash-outflows for 5 years. These funds need not be all deployed in liquid assets. There are other avenues / strategies which are less volatile than equity and can give a return higher than liquid funds. What you do not want is a situation where you are forced to liquidate your equity assets to meet a cash outflow in depressed markets.
4. Assess if you are truly diversified. Currency - a typical question could be: would not a sharp depreciation or a collapse of USD cause INR, which is pegged to USD, to depreciate? And in any case, does it matter to us Indians, who are earning, investing, and spending (by & large) in India? A collapse would mean a sharp, sustained, and confidence-destroying fall in the value of the USD against other major currencies like the euro, yen, pound, yuan, etc., and in an interconnected world, any major disruption in global currency markets will impact INR. Even if assuming India's macro indicators continue to be stable, the USD is still the central pillar of the global financial system. INR might strengthen vs USD but fall against other currencies. Each of us will have some expenses (foreign travel, higher education for example) in foreign currency. At the least, to that extent, diversification is a smart thing to do.
5. Tune in to narratives but do not blindly fall for them. You would be hearing a lot in these past few months about hard assets and why, given the world scenario, it is prudent to move to hard assets (real estate, physical gold) from financial assets (equity, bonds). Real Estate and gold feel tangible. They are physical, familiar, and have long histories tied to wealth preservation. Additionally, given that many central banks are increasing their holdings in Gold, given the potential of Gold becoming the de-facto peg for currencies - the yellow metal has been in the spotlight. However, over long periods, stocks have historically outperformed both real estate and gold. Hence leaning too hard on hard assets could backfire, in the long term. They serve a purpose, but not at the expense of balance.
6. Keep generating wealth, the real way. In all this, it is also important to remember how real wealth is generated - through enterprise, through craft, and that process must continue as long as it can.

From recency bias to building resilience

Should things get upended in the US and have a ripple effect on the world, including India - the one thing which worries us most is this phenomenon of recency bias, which has led to two things: One - it has gotten investors used to a certain return on their equity investments. Two - it has led to investors over-extending themselves on their equity exposures. We are not suggesting that this bias is all-pervasive but given human nature, it is a very natural phenomenon.

Before we elaborate further, we suggest you do one exercise: please check your 3-year annualized portfolio returns from equity assets as on today, (stocks, mutual funds, PMSs) and compare it with your 2-year annualized portfolio returns as of a year back. You would notice a reasonable correction. Why has that happened? Indian equity markets have not corrected in the last 1 year. In fact, they are marginally up. Then why have the annualized returns come off?

Let us understand this with an example: Say Rs. 100 were to become 151 in 3 years - this implies a simple return of 17% per year. 151 minus 100 = 51. 51 / 100 = 51%. 51% / 3 years = 17%. Now say in 4th year, there is hardly any growth, and 151 grows to 155. This means Rs. 100 has grown to 155 in 4 years. This implies a simple return of 13.75% per annum. Assume there is marginal growth in 5th year as well and 155 grows to 160. This means Rs. 100 has grown to Rs. 160 in 5 years. This implies a simple return of 12% per annum (down from 17%). This phenomenon is known as time-correction - where your annualized returns come down even though there were no price correction in the markets.

Net-net, the signs are indeed ominous. And it merits some actions at everyone's end. However, there is no standard cookie-cutter action, as the influencer seems to be suggesting. And that is where one needs to draw a line between influencers and specialists. The influencer does their job by stirring the pot - the next step is a detailed discussion & debate between you and your advisor, followed by necessary actions, if any.

In conclusion

While it is important to know what is happening, what can happen, assess the probabilities of it, there is only so much one can do to protect one's investments from uncertainties, and that too of this scale and complexity.

It is also important to maintain a reasonable balance between wealth preservation and growth. Remember that both do not go hand-in-hand.

Try to get over the recency bias. And build resilience. Both within and in your investment portfolio.